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		<title>By: Tess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Rosie, for your further comment, and I certainly agree about the destructive power of some anger.

Barney, your description of AngryBloke&#039;s recent experience made me smile! I think your description of this sort of protective anger (towards your students) is a good one, with a good example. I certainly agree with your antidotes, perhaps especially the vigorous walk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rosie, for your further comment, and I certainly agree about the destructive power of some anger.</p>
<p>Barney, your description of AngryBloke&#8217;s recent experience made me smile! I think your description of this sort of protective anger (towards your students) is a good one, with a good example. I certainly agree with your antidotes, perhaps especially the vigorous walk!</p>
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		<title>By: Barney</title>
		<link>http://www.anchormast.com/2009/08/04/split/comment-page-1/#comment-41630</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to say I have AngryBloke who resides alongside the calmer, more reasonable side of me. I have to keep praying and I really have to stay mindful to ensure that AngryBloke doesn&#039;t get out of hand. 

On Friday evening I was sitting in the theatre at Wellington College, where the last night show of the annual Baha&#039;i Academy for the Arts was taking place. It was the second half of the show and I was sitting with members of the writing class I&#039;d been tutoring - they were getting ready to read some samples of their work to the audience. 

We were close to a small group of young people, who were chatting to each other, taking pictures of each other and clearly planning some post-show activity. I found myself getting angrier and angrier with the young folk, not least because I was anxious that my group should have an attentive audience for their readings.

One lad kept talking to the girl in the row in front of him, looking for texts on his mobile, getting up and going out and then returning. After some time of this and as the young man was going out yet again, I exclaimed &quot;For God&#039;s sake, boy&quot; sotto voce (although it wasn&#039;t so sotto). He must have heard, because he looked down at me as he walked up the aisle.

Generally these young people were a lot better behaved than most and were delightful to meet, and I knew it wasn&#039;t doing me or them any good to become so angry inside at them. My reaction was not creative or helpful.

It would have been better to lean over and ask them not to talk while the show was on, but I knew that, angry as I was, I wouldn&#039;t be able to do this in a civil manner.

Sad, really. Selfishness? I don&#039;t know. Anger is sometimes justified, particularly when others are suffering injustice, but better to do something constructive. And better for the heart not to nurture anger - mindfulness, meditation, prayer can all help - as can a vigorous walk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to say I have AngryBloke who resides alongside the calmer, more reasonable side of me. I have to keep praying and I really have to stay mindful to ensure that AngryBloke doesn&#8217;t get out of hand. </p>
<p>On Friday evening I was sitting in the theatre at Wellington College, where the last night show of the annual Baha&#8217;i Academy for the Arts was taking place. It was the second half of the show and I was sitting with members of the writing class I&#8217;d been tutoring &#8211; they were getting ready to read some samples of their work to the audience. </p>
<p>We were close to a small group of young people, who were chatting to each other, taking pictures of each other and clearly planning some post-show activity. I found myself getting angrier and angrier with the young folk, not least because I was anxious that my group should have an attentive audience for their readings.</p>
<p>One lad kept talking to the girl in the row in front of him, looking for texts on his mobile, getting up and going out and then returning. After some time of this and as the young man was going out yet again, I exclaimed &#8220;For God&#8217;s sake, boy&#8221; sotto voce (although it wasn&#8217;t so sotto). He must have heard, because he looked down at me as he walked up the aisle.</p>
<p>Generally these young people were a lot better behaved than most and were delightful to meet, and I knew it wasn&#8217;t doing me or them any good to become so angry inside at them. My reaction was not creative or helpful.</p>
<p>It would have been better to lean over and ask them not to talk while the show was on, but I knew that, angry as I was, I wouldn&#8217;t be able to do this in a civil manner.</p>
<p>Sad, really. Selfishness? I don&#8217;t know. Anger is sometimes justified, particularly when others are suffering injustice, but better to do something constructive. And better for the heart not to nurture anger &#8211; mindfulness, meditation, prayer can all help &#8211; as can a vigorous walk!</p>
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		<title>By: RosiePosie</title>
		<link>http://www.anchormast.com/2009/08/04/split/comment-page-1/#comment-41628</link>
		<dc:creator>RosiePosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there is a difference between righteous anger and anger which we go on to express sinfully. Jesus showed righteous anger against those who hurt/abused others. Being assertive and honest with people isn&#039;t anger but a decision we may make when anger prompts us to think and then do something. But the world is also full of expressed anger which has created a violent and unhealthy society, and too much therapy involves expressing negative feelings instead of learning how to surrender them to God. Anger can be extremely destructive and nasty :(

I actually see selfishness as being at the root of most sin, going right back to Adam and Eve in the garden. Selfishness as in acting out of self-interest instead of being faithful to God. It is a difficult one, I agree and I am probably coming from a different place than some others here too. 

Rosie xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there is a difference between righteous anger and anger which we go on to express sinfully. Jesus showed righteous anger against those who hurt/abused others. Being assertive and honest with people isn&#8217;t anger but a decision we may make when anger prompts us to think and then do something. But the world is also full of expressed anger which has created a violent and unhealthy society, and too much therapy involves expressing negative feelings instead of learning how to surrender them to God. Anger can be extremely destructive and nasty <img src='http://www.anchormast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I actually see selfishness as being at the root of most sin, going right back to Adam and Eve in the garden. Selfishness as in acting out of self-interest instead of being faithful to God. It is a difficult one, I agree and I am probably coming from a different place than some others here too. </p>
<p>Rosie xx</p>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
		<link>http://www.anchormast.com/2009/08/04/split/comment-page-1/#comment-41624</link>
		<dc:creator>Tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claire, you made your comment while I was typing mine, otherwise I would have included reference to it. The example of the incest victim is a good one, and the reference to self-understanding is very important. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire, you made your comment while I was typing mine, otherwise I would have included reference to it. The example of the incest victim is a good one, and the reference to self-understanding is very important. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi RosiePosie, welcome to my blog and thank you for your comment. I have Abbot Jamison&#039;s book, but it hasn&#039;t yet reached the top of my reading list. I&#039;ll look out for that chapter. 

I&#039;m glad you make the point that anger needs to be acknowledged; I believe terrible damage can be done by unacknowledged anger. I&#039;m less certain about the question of &quot;indulging&quot; anger. If by this you mean abusive yelling and/or physical fighting, then yes I agree, but I think there&#039;s another side to this. For example, all my life I&#039;ve been afraid of conflict, and that&#039;s made it very difficult for me to have honest relationships with people. 

If you can tell a friend - reasonably calmly! - that their behaviour has hurt you or made you angry (their behaviour, not themselves, an important distinction) then you open the door to real dialogue and closeness. If you acknowledge the anger inwardly but never say anything, then you&#039;re failing to share part of yourself with the other person.

I don&#039;t entirely agree with you about the causes of anger, by the way. Much of it is about selfishness, but many people are dealing with real &quot;heavyweight&quot; abusive behaviour which goes far beyond thwarted plans. And then there&#039;s the kind of anger which results from injustice etc.

Anyway, thanks again for taking part in this discussion - it&#039;s really interesting to read all the comments and to think about this issue. I&#039;m sure between us all we&#039;re getting to the bottom of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi RosiePosie, welcome to my blog and thank you for your comment. I have Abbot Jamison&#8217;s book, but it hasn&#8217;t yet reached the top of my reading list. I&#8217;ll look out for that chapter. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you make the point that anger needs to be acknowledged; I believe terrible damage can be done by unacknowledged anger. I&#8217;m less certain about the question of &#8220;indulging&#8221; anger. If by this you mean abusive yelling and/or physical fighting, then yes I agree, but I think there&#8217;s another side to this. For example, all my life I&#8217;ve been afraid of conflict, and that&#8217;s made it very difficult for me to have honest relationships with people. </p>
<p>If you can tell a friend &#8211; reasonably calmly! &#8211; that their behaviour has hurt you or made you angry (their behaviour, not themselves, an important distinction) then you open the door to real dialogue and closeness. If you acknowledge the anger inwardly but never say anything, then you&#8217;re failing to share part of yourself with the other person.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t entirely agree with you about the causes of anger, by the way. Much of it is about selfishness, but many people are dealing with real &#8220;heavyweight&#8221; abusive behaviour which goes far beyond thwarted plans. And then there&#8217;s the kind of anger which results from injustice etc.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks again for taking part in this discussion &#8211; it&#8217;s really interesting to read all the comments and to think about this issue. I&#8217;m sure between us all we&#8217;re getting to the bottom of it!</p>
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		<title>By: claire bangasser</title>
		<link>http://www.anchormast.com/2009/08/04/split/comment-page-1/#comment-41622</link>
		<dc:creator>claire bangasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange. I would have said that an antidote to anger is self-understanding. I also think that injustice, or falsehood, lack of ethics, the structures of sin can be one reason of anger. Selfishness also, of course, but not only.
     Forgiveness, of course, is wonderful. Forgiveness is a grace. It is something we can pray for. I remember Marshall Rosenberg saying that an incest victim had come to forgive her father after three years of therapy. Would you have called her anger &#039;selfishness,&#039; Rosie?
     There may be as many reasons for anger as there are persons. I know someone who gets very angry when she comes across stupidity.
     Can one forgive stupidity or, maybe, ignore it?
     To explain anger with &#039;selfishness&#039; is to me an over-simplification which may have made me over-react :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange. I would have said that an antidote to anger is self-understanding. I also think that injustice, or falsehood, lack of ethics, the structures of sin can be one reason of anger. Selfishness also, of course, but not only.<br />
     Forgiveness, of course, is wonderful. Forgiveness is a grace. It is something we can pray for. I remember Marshall Rosenberg saying that an incest victim had come to forgive her father after three years of therapy. Would you have called her anger &#8216;selfishness,&#8217; Rosie?<br />
     There may be as many reasons for anger as there are persons. I know someone who gets very angry when she comes across stupidity.<br />
     Can one forgive stupidity or, maybe, ignore it?<br />
     To explain anger with &#8216;selfishness&#8217; is to me an over-simplification which may have made me over-react <img src='http://www.anchormast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RosiePosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>RosiePosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The antidote to anger is forgiveness. Most of our anger, I believe, has selfishness at its root...my pride/feelings have been hurt, my plans thwarted etc. I acknowledge the anger and then make a conscious decision not to indulge it, and to offer it to God as an act of self-denial, asking for Him to fill me instead with His love, peace and forgiveness. Through this, God has brought much healing my way. I pray it will be the same for you, too :)
Abbot Christopher Jamison&#039;s book, Finding Happiness has a wonderful chapter on anger...
Rosie xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The antidote to anger is forgiveness. Most of our anger, I believe, has selfishness at its root&#8230;my pride/feelings have been hurt, my plans thwarted etc. I acknowledge the anger and then make a conscious decision not to indulge it, and to offer it to God as an act of self-denial, asking for Him to fill me instead with His love, peace and forgiveness. Through this, God has brought much healing my way. I pray it will be the same for you, too <img src='http://www.anchormast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Abbot Christopher Jamison&#8217;s book, Finding Happiness has a wonderful chapter on anger&#8230;<br />
Rosie xx</p>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 08:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellen, thanks. For me, Angrychick is closely related to Contemptuouschick. She&#039;s the one with the destructive energy that just sucks me in. We are indeed a work in progress!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen, thanks. For me, Angrychick is closely related to Contemptuouschick. She&#8217;s the one with the destructive energy that just sucks me in. We are indeed a work in progress!</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tess,
So this is a glimpse of &#039;Tess unplugged&#039; I think :-)  Interesting that angry chick should come out when you are trying to practice your religion. That inner dialog is very funny. This chick seems to have a lot of energy but also creativity and humour...
I can really relate to angry chick. I have one too, and she has lots of energy, but is also destructive and irrational. Whatever the solution is, it&#039;s not to simply suppress / repress. Well, we&#039;re a work in progress.

Ellen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tess,<br />
So this is a glimpse of &#8216;Tess unplugged&#8217; I think <img src='http://www.anchormast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Interesting that angry chick should come out when you are trying to practice your religion. That inner dialog is very funny. This chick seems to have a lot of energy but also creativity and humour&#8230;<br />
I can really relate to angry chick. I have one too, and she has lots of energy, but is also destructive and irrational. Whatever the solution is, it&#8217;s not to simply suppress / repress. Well, we&#8217;re a work in progress.</p>
<p>Ellen</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi  Ta for the link to Jill&#039;s talk!  That was amazing and I still have chillbumps.

Think I&#039;ll try out my right hemisphere for a while!  Peace, y&#039;all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi  Ta for the link to Jill&#8217;s talk!  That was amazing and I still have chillbumps.</p>
<p>Think I&#8217;ll try out my right hemisphere for a while!  Peace, y&#8217;all!</p>
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